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Heroes – Duality – Live-Blogging/Chat

by Kona Gallagher

Tonight is the last Heroes episode of the year, a fact that I know because NBC has been emphasizing it in every promo that they’ve run. Does this mean that it will be an extra-good episode? I would hope so, but that remains to be seen.

After the unpleasantness with Arthur last week, Nathan and Peter square off. I kind of feel like this has already happened half a dozen times already this season, but maybe this time it’s serious. I don’t know. At Primatech, Sylar continues to get back to his evil roots and detains Claire, HRG, Meredith and Angela. I wonder if it’ll turn out as well as the office birthday party from last week.

The archive to the live-blog/chat is below …

9:00	Kona Gallagher: Hello everyone! It’s time for another Heroes Liveblog

9:00	[Comment From Dorv] Red Jello!

9:01	Kona Gallagher: Hi Dorv, thanks for coming back.

9:01	Kona Gallagher: Good job last week on the review!

9:01	Dorv: Thanks!

9:01	Kona Gallagher: Hey, it was Micah! I’m happy to see he still exists.

9:01	Dorv: Sylar with the voiceover….

9:02	Kona Gallagher: Yeah, that’s interesting.

9:02	Kona Gallagher: So we get to see if Arthur is truly dead…

9:02	[Comment From Bob Sassone] Sort of a up-to-now season summary…

9:02	[Comment From cj] hopefully he is still dead. Hi all

9:02	Kona Gallagher: Hi Bob and CJ!

9:03	Dorv: K, you’re right… It felt like kind of a cheat

9:03	Kona Gallagher: Ooh, that was ominous.

9:03	Dorv: (i.e. Arthur dieing that is)

9:03	Kona Gallagher: It’s a brother show down.

9:03	Bob Sassone: oh just shoot

9:04	Kona Gallagher: Seriously.

9:04	Bob Sassone: and punching him stops him…how?

9:04	Kona Gallagher: Interesting. So Peter isn’t ready to kill Nathan, but he’ll still knock the shit out of him.

9:04	Bob Sassone: I think Sylar is pretty much unstoppable now, since he has all of these powers

9:05	Kona Gallagher: Well, Arthur should have been similarly unstoppable, but they put him down pretty quickly.

9:05	Bob Sassone: yeah, but it was Sylar who did it!

9:05	Dorv: Peter has got to get his powers back soon, to have some balance

9:06

cj: wow.

9:06	Bob Sassone: so is this the Christmas episode of Heroes?

9:06	Kona Gallagher: Yeah, but didn’t Sylar just do that so he could be the one to actually kill him? I feel like if Peter’s bullet would have just gone in unimpeded, the end result would have been the same.

9:06	Kona Gallagher: God, I hope so, Bob.

9:06	cj: i was hoping that with arthur dead the powers would go back to the original ‘owner’

9:06	[Comment From Brett] Anyone else surprised that Arthur didn’t sit up?

9:06	Kona Gallagher: Hi Brett! I definitely am.

9:07	Bob Sassone: I hope he stays dead. I love Robert Forster, but enough of people not staying dead already…

9:07	[Comment From Jane Boursaw] Hey guys!

9:07	[Comment From Brett] Totally agree Bob

9:07	Kona Gallagher: I know. It’s kind of annoying.

9:07	Dorv: I was never really that impressed with him as a character

9:07	Kona Gallagher: Hi Jane!

9:08	Kona Gallagher: Aw, that’s a really cute Mac commercial.

9:08	Bob Sassone: hey, animated Xmas Mac/PC ad!

9:08	cj: i hope arthur stays dead and hiro makes it back to the present. don’t need another storyline where is stuck in the past again..like with Adam (which..what was that about anyway since he died right way)

9:08	Kona Gallagher: I agree, CJ.

9:09	Dorv: I’m worried that Hiro might not come back from the past :(

9:09	Kona Gallagher: Nah, Hiro’s like the show mascot.

9:09	Brett: I’d like him to come back, but nobody to have time traveling powers again.

9:09	[Comment From Keith] Yo Dorv, thought you weren’t going to be around??

9:09	Kona Gallagher: Claire has an off switch?

9:09	Bob Sassone: huh? what was that all about with Claire?

9:09	Dorv: I’m in a hotel in St. Louis…. About 1/3 of the way on the trip

9:10	Brett: Yes, from season one and the stick in the melon.

9:10	Dorv: I didn’t get nearly as far as I wanted :(

9:10	cj: remember when the branch got her neck ( it think it was). She died until it was removed.

9:10	Keith: I haven’t watched Heroes in a long time but wow does this look awful right now.

9:10	Kona Gallagher: Ha.

9:10	Kona Gallagher: Hiro hasn’t gotten down from that flagpole yet? Poor guy.

9:10	Dorv: I don’t really like the cinematography of the episode

9:11

cj: lol

9:11	Bob Sassone: oh for God’s sake…Hiro would have to be Bruce Jenner to hold on this long

9:11	Dorv: Oh, and just because we have Hiro: YATTA!

9:11	Kona Gallagher: I like how Ando has been getting pissed lately.

9:12	Bob Sassone: so Hiro has been hanging on for as long as it took these three to go from a cornfield in the midweat to NYC?

9:12	Dorv: Ando with cajones is kinda nice

9:12	Jane Boursaw: oh for god sakes, die already, suresh!

9:12	Brett: Oooooh, let Mohinder die!

9:12	Dorv: Who said that we didn’t just join Hiro 30 seconds later?

9:12	Dorv: KILL

9:12	Kona Gallagher: Seriously. I’m so bored with him.

9:12	Bob Sassone: Peter “I’m really good at aiming guns but not pulling the trigger” Petrelli

9:13	cj: too bad they destroyed suresh’s character.

9:13	Kona Gallagher: Maybe it has been only 30 seconds, but that’s a really long time to hang from a flagpole.

9:13	Dorv: Watching this live means I can’t fast foward through the Suresh scenes

9:13	Kona Gallagher: It really is. I liked Suresh.

9:13	Dorv: the scar on the other guy’s face

9:14	Kona Gallagher: Yeah, I noticed that. It was the symbol

9:14	Bob Sassone: uh, OK…goodbye Marine!

9:14	Brett: So much for super marine

9:14	Dorv: Did he kill him? Missed it

9:14	Brett: Snapped his neck Dorv

9:14	Kona Gallagher: Sweet! Ando is going to get a power!

9:15	Brett: Which, of course, doens’t mean he’s actually dead

9:15	Dorv: Fair point, Brett

9:15	Dorv: Super Ando!

9:15	Keith: Wow what a wimp. Hurt by a needle?

9:15	Bob Sassone: I love how TV characters can just jab things into their bodies

9:15	Keith: And jab then into their bodies HARD … OK that sounded bad.

9:15	Kona Gallagher: Heh.

9:15	Dorv: You can forgive the conceit of the guy that can walk through walls, but not the med tech?

9:15	cj: I just love Hiro and his enthusiasm. He is the best!

9:17	Dorv: yatta….?

9:17	Jane Boursaw: that kid really does look like a young hiro

9:17	Bob Sassone: that kid is trusting a mysterious chef rather quickly…

9:17	cj: the kid is the idealist hiro.

9:17	Kona Gallagher: Who is Claire spanking?

9:17	Brett: Sylar, I think

9:17	Kona Gallagher: Fun

9:18	Dorv: I would volunteer if she wasn’t that young 0:)

9:18	Kona Gallagher: Ha

9:18	Jane Boursaw: i coulda been a contendah

9:18	Kona Gallagher: That’s exactly what I was thinking, Jane!

9:19	Jane Boursaw: :-)

9:19	Dorv: I still don’t really “get” this switch of Sylar’s…

9:19	Kona Gallagher: I would kind of love it if she shot Angela in the head.

9:19	Dorv: I just want some people to die. And, you know, stay dead.

9:19	Brett: Amen Dorv

9:19	Kona Gallagher: I like Angela and all, but I would like it if Claire went from cheerleader to stone-cold killer.

9:19	Jane Boursaw: someone…anyone!

9:20	Dorv: I’ve got a list… But its probably easier to say who I’d keep:

9:20	Brett: Who’s top of the list? Mohinder?

9:21	Dorv: Ando/Hiro, Daphine/Matt, Sylar, Claire/HRG

9:21	Dorv: I would have kept Elle

9:21	Brett: I still think Sylar should have died at the end of season one.

9:21	Kona Gallagher: I agree from a story perspective, Brett, but I love Sylar.

9:21	Dorv: I like Sylar… I really liked this arc he had this year, until you know, two weeks ago

9:22	cj: Agree with Dorv. plus peter

9:22	Kona Gallagher: I agree with your list Dorv, but I’m indifferent to Daphne. I would probably put her on the kill list.

9:22	Dorv: I could care less about Sylar in S2, but love him this year

9:22	Dorv: Kona: I love Daphine, specifically how she and Matt work together

9:22	cj: i think they changed sylar due to the changes to the 2nd half of the season storyline changes. that is why the disconnect

9:23	Jane Boursaw: Aww, my buddy David Lawrence! :-)

9:23	Dorv: Brett: Yeah, Peter too

9:23	Kona Gallagher: Yeah. I think I saw him on another show recently playing a security guard. I could be wrong though.

9:23	Brett: Chum!

9:24	Brett: I’m totally willing to sacrifice Peter, for the record

9:24	Jane Boursaw: i’m liking that the villains are just taking over

9:24	cj: oh and claire. i don’t want claire to be killed.

9:24	Kona Gallagher: Wow, Ando is adorable

9:24	Dorv: See, I love Daph!

9:25	Keith: Wipe your face man

9:25	Kona Gallagher: Oh no, is Ando going to poop his pants?

9:25	Brett: Ando has stagefright

9:25	Dorv: Dude, I don’t want to see that on Network TV

9:25	Bob Sassone: Prediction: Meredith dies

9:26	Kona Gallagher: If she died for real, I’d be totally okay with that.

9:26	Dorv: Someone’s got to in this scene

9:26

cj: me 2

9:26	Kona Gallagher: Whose arm was that?

9:26	Dorv: Mine… That Sylar guy is a real ass

9:26

cj: nice

9:26	Bob Sassone: this episode is filmed like some teenage slasher film, people trapped in an abandoned hospital or something

9:27	Brett: Oh, there you go

9:27	Dorv: Sylar let that go on way long

9:27	Brett: Or, ya know, not

9:27	Kona Gallagher: He shot her with adrenaline?

9:27	Jane Boursaw: lots of jabbing in this ep

9:27	Dorv: With hard things?

9:27	cj: good way to narrow down the cast for the rest of the season.

9:28	Kona Gallagher: So, wait. She can’t control her power now? I missed a little bit.

9:28	[Comment From Guest] gud morning people

9:28	Dorv: HRG is gonna have no qualms.

9:28	[Comment From FORBES] gud morning gud morning

9:28	Kona Gallagher: Hello Forbes. Thanks for joining us.

9:29

cj: ouch

9:29	Bob Sassone: Not to sound terrible, but if I was in that situation I’d shoot her asap

9:29	Kona Gallagher: Meredith?

9:30	Dorv: I would think that HRG can think his way out of it…

9:31	Brett: Why not just knock her out?

9:31	Brett: It’s TV, one punch should do it.

9:31	Kona Gallagher: Yeah. It worked for Peter at teh beginning of the episode.

9:32	Dorv: Thanks NBC, for giving us this stuff.

9:32	Brett: “The most anticipated show of the year, Mommas Boys”

9:32	Bob Sassone: i’d like to see a crossover…Sylar as one of the detectives on Law and Order

9:32	Keith: How can Momma’s Boys be “the most anticipated show”? For whom?

9:32	Dorv: Kona’s new boyfriend on Life

9:32	Bob Sassone: HA!

9:32	Brett: Ryan Seacrest?

9:32	Kona Gallagher: Oh, he’s not my new boyfriend. That love affair has been going on for quite some time.

9:33	Dorv: :)

9:33	Bob Sassone: quote of the year so far, from Nathan

9:33	Kona Gallagher: Damn!

9:33	Keith: OK that was a badass effect

9:33	Bob Sassone: “Everyone backs Peter but in the end he ends up losing.”

9:33	cj: nikki to the rescue (or whatever her name is now.(

9:33	Dorv: Two deaths.

9:34	Kona Gallagher: What the hell is he doing to Matt?!

9:34	Kona Gallagher: Ooh, is his power that he enhances everyone elses power?

9:34	Dorv: Dude… Ando’s power is badass

9:34	Brett: He’s an amplifier

9:34	Bob Sassone: Ando has the most confusing power yet!

9:35	Bob Sassone: look, Sylar is Twittering!

9:35	Brett: So fast she can go back in time? Good grief.

9:35	Keith: “God @claire is really pissing me off”

9:35	Kona Gallagher: Heh.

9:35	Dorv: Claire is afraid of the dark? Is she canadian?

9:36	Kona Gallagher: I keep on forgetting that Angela is her grandmother.

9:36	Brett: hahaha

9:37	Dorv: See, HRG is smart

9:37	Kona Gallagher: Have her do it again. I”m sure it’ll work.

9:37	Kona Gallagher: …or that.

9:38	cj: she’s gonna kill herself.

9:38	Dorv: Yeah, a bullet wouldn’t work, but her jumping would?

9:38	Bob Sassone: how are they going to stop Sylar exactly?

9:38	Kona Gallagher: Totally

9:38	Kona Gallagher: Well, the bullet loosened it up for her?

9:38	cj: the bullet cracked the glass, she broke it through

9:39	Bob Sassone: HRG is going to point the gun at Sylar again and … then what?

9:39	cj: where is the haitian? he was there with arthur and peter and sylar.

9:39	Bob Sassone: it’s like when bad guys used to shoot at Superman on that old show

9:39	Bob Sassone: yeah, where is the Haitian? I guess his character can’t be used this episode or it would be too easy, heh

9:40	Kona Gallagher: Dude. Howie Do it?

9:41	Kona Gallagher: Come on.

9:41	Dorv: My Own Worst Borning Hour of Television

9:41	Bob Sassone: it’s the series finale of MOWE

9:41	cj: Only 19 minutes left…better be GOOD.

9:42	Dorv: Yeah, I’m not really feeling overwelmed at this point…

9:43	cj: i really don’t get Nathan

9:43	Bob Sassone: the Freeze Girl is “fired” …ironic

9:43	Kona Gallagher: Sure, you can say that she’s fired, but you’re still going to do her

9:43	Dorv: I miss “event telelvision” I remember the first 19 minutes of ERs “All in the Family”

9:43	Dorv: I am the “Supercharger”

9:44	Kona Gallagher: I still don’t buy the whole, “I can run so fast I’ll go back in time” thing

9:44	Brett: Uh, how do they travel forward?

9:44	Keith: And carrying him with her? Come on.

9:44	Bob Sassone: yeah, that’s pretty stupid

9:45	Keith: Brett: She carried him.

9:45	Dorv: I did love Ando’s Yatta!

9:45	Kona Gallagher: So, I guess it worked, but they didn’t get the formula

9:46	Bob Sassone: so they went back to the exact time and place? ooookayyyy…

9:46	Dorv: Oh, they solved the mystery of how the formula got ripped

9:46	Bob Sassone: they didn’t have tape 16 years ago?

9:47	Kona Gallagher: Or, you know, another piece of paper on which to rewrite the formula/

9:47	cj: nice hit.

9:47	Keith: is it just me or did Ali Larter put on weight?

9:47	Dorv: hahaha

9:47	Bob Sassone: they’re STILL destroying the lab?

9:47	cj: how much formula did they make.

9:47	Brett: They dont’ have super speed Bob

9:47	cj: oh..mohinder is saved.

9:47	Dorv: They didn’t let the jello sit!

9:48	Kona Gallagher: There are a lot of people getting knocked the hell out in this episode.

9:48	Keith: I love out of all the super powers in this show, simple punches take people out.

9:48	Dorv: I knew it was you, peter… You broke my heart

9:49	cj: Nathan is gonna get powers again WOO HOO!

9:49	Jane Boursaw: geesh, more jabbing

9:49	Dorv: Thank you!

9:49	cj: I mean Peter.

9:49	Bob Sassone: great, it’s easy to get powers now…just jab yourself

9:49	cj: I was going to say…Nathan is annoying me.

9:49	Jane Boursaw: we should do a post about all the implausibilities in this show

9:49	Brett: I still don’t get the time travel thing.

9:49	Kona Gallagher: Except that my head would explode

9:50	cj: This mac commercial is funny. missed it the first time.

9:50	Bob Sassone: this episode is all over the place…I hope it calms down next year

9:50	Jane Boursaw: this *season is all over the place

9:50	Brett: Travel faster than the speed of light and you go back in time. Ok. But how can she go forward in time?

9:50	cj: Supposedly with Fuller back it will be back to like first season and dead means dead.

9:50	Kona Gallagher: I really loved the basic premise of this show: ordinary people dealing with extraordinary abilities. I wish they would go back to that

9:51	Kona Gallagher: It’s too complicated now–like the later seasons of Alias.

9:51	cj: good comparison.

9:51	Dorv: The later seasons of Alias were great… Just ask Keith

9:51	Keith: Right. Why not get people with abilities, then they actually, you know, fight crime and stuff.

9:52	Bob Sassone: Alias was like Petticoat Junction compared to this show right now

9:52	Brett: There’s an idea, Keith.

9:52	cj: though this is more insane than the rambaldi stuff ever got.

9:52	Keith: Oooooh Dorv don’t get me and Sassone started arguing again.

9:52	Kona Gallagher: Ha.

9:52	Dorv: I still haven’t forgiven you for including Angel on your list…

9:53	Dorv: Kill the Grandfather, Save the world?

9:53	Kona Gallagher: So killing Arthur is what saves the world?

9:53	Keith: maybe the hokey comic book continuation ruined my memories of it

9:53	Brett: Doesn’t have quite the same ring to it Dorv :D

9:53	Dorv: I’ve enjoyed the Comic… Though not Gunn as a vamp

9:53	Jane Boursaw: go for it, sylar

9:53	Kona Gallagher: Whatever. I still totally think she’s his mother.

9:54	Dorv: Whoa, waht?

9:54	Bob Sassone: huh, I thought she was going to end up being his mom after all, and John Glover his dad

9:54	Kona Gallagher: Damn. Her sons have been such a disappointment?

9:54	Kona Gallagher: She’s such a delightfully bad mom.

9:54	Jane Boursaw: and they’ve been model parents

9:54	cj: i don’t think angela will be killed. unfortunately.

9:54	Brett: The commercial with her in the web series kind of blew the tension

9:55	Dorv: Fair point

9:55	Bob Sassone: “John Glover is your dad! But we haven’t cast your mother yet!”

9:55	Bob Sassone: Why not just read her mind?

9:55	Kona Gallagher: Just kill her anyway

9:55	Jane Boursaw: he can’t handle the truth!

9:55	Dorv: You can’t handle the

9:55	Kona Gallagher: Did Claire hit his off switch?

9:56	Dorv: Poop… You got to it first

9:56	Keith: With a piece of glass

9:56

cj: yep.

9:56	Bob Sassone: um, shouldn’t they, like,chop up Sylar’s body or something?

9:56	Keith: Why aren’t her clothes burned off?

9:56	cj: no, cause then he would be dead.

9:56	Keith: Ah there they go

9:56	Brett: Yes, we have to leave Sylar here for someone to turn on again.

9:56	Kona Gallagher: Well, okay> I guess that’s it for Meredith

9:57	Jane Boursaw: talk about spontaneous combustion

9:57	cj: did sylar burn up?

9:57	Dorv: Three deaths

9:57	Kona Gallagher: Nah. I can buy that they killed Meredith, but not Sylar.

9:57	Brett: It won’t matter CJ. As we saw before, pull the glass out and he’ll heal.

9:57	cj: Till the next season.

9:58	Bob Sassone: and that’s the ONLY copy of the formula…so ridiculous

9:58	cj: Oh no….the nikki’s other sister.

9:58	Dorv: Didn’t that dude die in AFrica?

9:58	Bob Sassone: it’s a vision

9:58	Jane Boursaw: thank god!

9:59	Kona Gallagher: Fugitives!

9:59	Kona Gallagher: Is Micah going to come back? I’ve missed him.

9:59	Brett: Is that Whorf?

9:59	cj: me too.

9:59	cj: It is him!

9:59	Dorv: Whoa… I think you’re right!

9:59	Bob Sassone: wow, it’s like the ultimate Heroes press kit!

9:59	Kona Gallagher: Ooh, so Nathan wants to put them in a camp

9:59	Brett: That’s some great casting.